Difference between Applied Psychology and Clinical Psychology

What is the difference between Counseling Psychology and clinical psychology and it seems it can be a really difficult question to actually answer but  Wars Counseling Psychology now the first things first I think we need to go into a lot better detail about what the two disciplines can some psychology and clinical psychology are actually all about well the first thing to say about Counseling Psychology is actually a very recent it's quite a new form of psychology is they're dudes with all kinds of different mental health difficulties and it's concerned with both therapy and research something called the scientist practitioner model as a real key feature to counseling psychology where a therapist both works in that one-to-one or group based mental health work but also looks at research actually working as a scientist as well that's one of the key things actually differentiates counseling psychology from things like the counseling or psychotherapy is like scientist practitioner model there's also a pluralistic basis to counseling psychology now pluralism basically means an appreciation and a training in all different kinds of therapy you know cognitive behavioral therapy person centered therapy transactional analysis psychodynamic therapy all different kinds of therapy are important is accounting cycle is not just trained in one form of therapy which is something you may see in counseling or psychotherapy for example and although there's a pluralistic basis the counseling psychology there as a humanistic underpinning now this basically means that can a person-centered humanistic values are the kind of foundation to counsel psychology's don't get me wrong there are some counseling psychologists that primarily work in cold in the behavioral therapy for example by a huge part of their identity is in that humanistic approach in that humanistic appreciation penciling psychologists work privately they work at universities they work in medical centers and in all different kinds of mental health centers there's of course an understanding of the mental health difficulties the subject of understandings all those for the clients in particular but there's also an understanding of the medicalization of certain diagnosis now whether or not counseling psychologists actively agree with those diagnosis or not they are an appreciation they do appreciate them they understand or they have training in the middle east now we've looked at counseling psychology why don't you take a little bit of a look at what clinical psychology is all about there's no doubt.

Here things are very similar there's a lot of overlap between counseling psychology and clinical psychology again we have that scientist practitioner model we have a therapeutic site and a research scientist site and clinical psychology clinical psychologists work predominantly and musicalized centers

though primarily in the NHS there's also more of a focus on what's known as the medical model where assessment procedures and diagnosis are very central to the work conducted by clinical psychology that's one of the differences between the two assessments are real key parts of clinical psychologists work and counseling psychologists do this to a degree but not to the same extent as clinical psychologists it could be argued so what exactly are the differences between counseling psychology and clinical no the first thing I'm going to talk about is pluralism which I've already mentioned.

Now it's important to reiterate why said pluralism is one of those key features that differentiate counseling psychology from things like counseling and psychotherapy but it's also a key feature that does show some differences between counseling and clinical

Before I go any further I know very well that clinical psychologists are trained and pluralistic Saints by do think that they are executed or pluralism is executed in a very different way between chemical and psychology and clinical counseling psychology views pluralism as a stance and of itself with a reflective practitioner model utilizing pluralism and an understanding of many different forms of therapy and counseling psychologists can attend see themselves as their own mode of therapy so to speak so I've had training in Pearson since

I've had trained cognitive behavioral therapy a high training in schema therapy I utilize all those things I'm alchemy all those things to create my own stunts that's how pluralism is kind of executed in counseling psychology I mean that's a very basic and foundational explanation clinical psychology can be argued you see that a little bit differently that this pluralistic stance is seen as one or the other so to speak so if you have had training cognitive behavioral therapy and perhaps some training in person-centered therapy a clinical psychologist might utilize one or the other for example there's also humanism like I said earlier humanism as a key identifying feature to counseling psychology but also illustrates a lot about the differences between counseling psychology and clinical psychology it's utilized very differently so if a client comes to us with a previous diagnosis of borderline personality disorder for example the first thing I came some psychologists should do is see the subjective individual see the client as themselves not necessarily as their diagnosis now don't get me wrong I counseling psychologists might utilize an understanding of that previous diagnosis they might agree or disagree with it

They may utilize it for the betterment of that clients treatment that philosophical underpinning or that perception will depend on the subject of counseling psychologists themselves and how much they actually agree with diagnosis or not clinical psychology would see that diagnosis as more central and even perhaps work with that diagnosis and know of itself when they experience a client that has like a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder for example I think it's important to say that there are different opinions and different perspectives and appreciations of what diagnosis actually mean when we're looking at counseling psychology compared to clinical now of course after all that you might be thinking as well and it's absolutely true to see there's

a huge amount of overlap here things like the scientist practitioner model which is a key contributing factor to the identity of chemists in psychology is also shared by clinical psychology now these overlaps are everywhere you know that reflective practitioner model pluralism even these kind of things are overlaps between counseling and clinical so as much as I can give you some identifying features to what is about counseling the deference from clinical or what is a bit clinical it differs from chemists own people are always going to have their different perspectives and some things the changes are some things that differences be very small but can actually be really impactful when you work with a clinical psychologist or you work with a counseling psychologist who's differentiating factors can become quite apparent in things there are a number of things to be aware of if you're considering counseling or clinical psychology or when you're wanting to understand a little bit more about the differences between two the first thing to consider here is training one of the key differentiating factors between counseling psychology and clinical psychology is a way that people have trained both our trains and both go on placement with advanced supervision when some psychology is a little bit different in that often you'll be asked to and have a certain number of personal therapy hours under your veil as you study the course but for in the UK currently clinical psychology is a funded course with a twenty six thousand pound a year salary attributed to it and Curson psychology is not funded there have at times been talks actually of an amalgamation amongst psychology the overlapping identity between Counseling Psychology and clinical psychology and even the jobs that ask an NHS enemy they look for clinical / counseling psychologists have spoken more and more to this amalgamation between counseling and clinical psychology in particular and actually in the British Psychological Society in the UK and it's and of itself they're happy people arguing for an amalgamation of all disciplines of psychology meaning thatthere would no longer be a counseling psychologist and a clinical psychologist or health psychologist they would just be identified as applied psychologists

 

I'm actually quite interested in what you think of this in my view I don't really see this as helping the client in any way shape or form really I kind of some challenges that we actually have with our own identity whether your counseling or clinical psychologist and the issues that we have with that overlapping identity I'm very proud of my caring psychologist in training identity and I don't want to sacrifice that just because we find it difficult to differentiate that between clinical psychology I think also there are a number of common misconceptions between the two that needs to be addressed I think some of those misconceptions stem from the kind of hierarchical basis of clinical and counseling psychology now often what can happen is that on training and this is often being the case I've heard this from colleagues and people that I study with that clinical psychologists can appear on a pedestal above Counseling Psychology now that can come in many different forms a lot of people think that clinical psychologists are real psychologists and counseling psychologists are just therapists I've also heard examples of trainees and even qualified individuals that are counseling psychologists on placement or in work who have been told that they're

not allowed to work with certain kinds of people that have certain kind of diagnosis and that those human things are often just reserved for clinical psychology me that often puts clinical psychology on its perceived pedestal that has no accurate one of the common

misconceptions I want to address is that if you're a psychologist then you're a psychologist that's the level platform where a clinical psychology is not above counseling and counseling is not about clinical in any way actually what you find in the NHS which I've actually even found quite surprising is there are a lot of hierarchical possessions a lot of managerial positions in psychology in the NHS they're actually taken up by counseling psychologists I also think there's a misconception here about the amalgamation between counseling psychology and psychotherapy

There's a lot of therapists out there and I'm wondering to do a video actually on calling out not named people but people that aren't actually qualified calling themselves therapists counselors and even psychologists and some things what can happen is that Kempson psychology can I get wrapped into that mix where we think that counseling psychologists are basically just glorified therapists that's absolutely not the case what I talked to you earlier about the scientist prep session or model as the case you know counseling psychologists are researchers they're scientists as well I also want it can I support clinical psychology in this as well what happens something's a misconception about clinical psychology as that is just very clinical and that's absolutely not the case is a really beneficial

therapeutic aspect to clinical psychology to I've worked with a number of clinical psychologists in my history and they've all been fantastic psychologists and not only have they had that expertise in research and science just like chemists and psychologists but they also have vast training and understanding and the therapeutic sense as well again very much that counseling psychology

I think one of the there's many different features for me my own experience of being a counseling psychologist in training I think speak to some of the differences in clinical psychology compared to counseling I see this at conferences sometimes I know that people disagree with me often but one of the key defining differences for me actually is that I think in counseling psychology there's a greater option or opportunity to actually work privately if that's what you want to do clinical psychology very much focuses in on working in the NHS absolutely nothing wrong with that and of course there are clinical psychologists who do work privately I think as a counseling psychologist they are more attuned to working on that group based so that once one mental health we in a private sense so if you're kind of thinking to yourself you know I'm clicking on private work like me I'm doing private work in the future is one of the things